Grand Hotel ?

Hi My hubby and I will be attend a marriage seminar the 1st weekend in May. I understand that there is a dress code for dinner and after dinner but what type of clothes would be okay during the day?

We plan on bringing our bikes and touring the island. Would we feel out of place wearing sweat shirts and running pants? Will jeans/khaki%26#39;s be okay at breakfast/lunch/during the conference?

Thanks

Grand Hotel ?

During the day, anything goes at the Grand Hotel, and you%26#39;ll see all types of attire. For the conference, I would think the jeans or khaki%26#39;s you suggest would be fine. For your bike riding and walking the island, comfort comes first.

I find it a unique experience in the evening when everyone is dressed nicely. Reminds me of when people would dress up for plane travel or dinner on a cruise ship. Today, it%26#39;s something you just don%26#39;t see anymore. Hope you have a great trip!

Grand Hotel ?

Think resort casual. Khaki slacks and a sweater would be ideal It will still be cool in May. And yes, you%26#39;ll need to dress for dinner. Jackets and ties for men and dresses for the ladies. You%26#39;ll appreciate the quality and the special way it makes you feel when everyone is dressed properly. The Grand Hotel is a special place.

I went to a Women%26#39;s Retreat there a couple years ago and they did allow the women to wear nice pantsuits to dinner. You might check with the organization.

Good place for toddlers?

Thinking about a this this summer but have three children, 3 yrs 2 yrs and a baby who would be around 4-5 months when we would go. It it toddler friendly? also do they rent some kind of carriers so we could pull them behind us on the bikes? any tips would be helpful. we are looking to drive from PA and wanted a place that would be around 8 hr drive, if you have any better suggestions please post them.

Good place for toddlers?

Hello jjiillee,

Here are three places on Mackinac Island that rent bikes.

Island Bicycle Rental

http://www.mackinac.com/islandbicycle/

Ryba%26#39;s Bicycle Rentals

http://www.rybabikes.com/

Mackinac Island Bike Shop

http://www.mackinacislandbikes.com/

I think you will see the cost of renting bikes maybe a bit high. If you could bring your own bikes with you it would save you money. You can take your own bikes over to the Island for a slight charge.

I took my daughter over to the Mackinac Island when she was 3 years old and she loved it. I think your two year old would like it to but not sure if the 2 year old%26#39;s attention span would last the whole day.

Now this is just my opinion but I would think about visiting Mackinac Island in a few years when the 3 and 2 year old could rent their own bikes or bring their bikes with them. For this summer I would think there would be some other vacation spot for your family that would be as much fun and less work for you.

Hopefully there will be other Tripadvisor people that will post and suggest other places in Michigan to go or give you advice/experience going to Mackinac Island.

Good place for toddlers?

jjiillee,

We took our 2 year old last Labor Day and she had a great time watching the horses, riding in the carrier behind the bike and generally running around Marquette Park. She was exhausted at the end of each day since we did so much walking.

We did take a stroller for extended outings, but she had fun walking along Main Street with the family.

There are a limited number of carriers, it seems, so you probably want to get one earlier in the day rather than later.

The Original Butterfly House is a must see, the kids love it along with the bug exhibits!

All of the restaurants we visited (Village Inn, Pink Pony, Sea Biscuit, Horns, Pancake House and several others) had kids menus and high chairs.

The carriage ride was a bit long for our 2 year old, but my sister-in-laws older kids (7%26amp;5) enjoyed it.

I would also suggest stopping by the great lawn in front of the Mission Point for some relaxation and to let the kids run around.

Finally, Mission Point offers hay rides if enough people sign up. I don%26#39;t think you have to be a guest to take advantage of that, though we happened to be. That was a hit all the way around (the hay ride, not Mission Point).

Have a great trip!

The Island is a great place for kids of all ages! I agree with the suggestion to bring your own bikes/carriers if you can. You can rent carriers and bikes with kid seats on the back, but with the money you spend for having them for one day, you could easily buy your own. Not to mention the freedom you have by having your own bikes is great! Bikes cost $7 each to bring on the ferry, but far better than the rental cost!

Your little ones certainly will not have any trouble sleeping when they are on the island. Between the Fort, butterfly houses, riding around the perimeter of the Island (my favorite!), and just running around the parks and playgrounds, they%26#39;ll be worn out. Going into the interior of the Island might be a bit difficult with the little ones, (all uphill)but then you have some great things to look forward to the next time.

We usually stay at a condo with our kids, because you can bring your own food and save money by cooking your own meals. But most of them are a ways out of town, so a hotel may be a good option for you. I would suggest either Island House or Main Street Inn and Suites. Main Street Inn has some of the best accommodations, but being in town can be a bit noisy at night. Island House is just outside of the main part of town, much quieter, but still very convenient. Island House also offers breakfast but Main Street does not have a restaurant. Though there are many great choices just a few steps from the Inn. Many of the other hotels have bars and music well into the night. While those hotels are also great it is something to consider.

As you know, relaxation is key when travelling with kids the ages of yours. I really think you can do that on the Island. Sit with your husband and watch the kids play and take in the natural beauty at the same time! Enjoy!

Our children are now 6 %26amp; 8 and we have been going to Mackinac Island every other year since my oldest was 9 months. My kids love it! We%26#39;ve always had a wonderful time. We brought our own double bike carrier that turns into a stroller along with us last time. The carriers that I saw being rented looked much smaller than ours, so I don%26#39;t know if it they were all single carriers or just that they were a different brand.

The original butterfly house is always a hit. We%26#39;ve never done the carriage tour as it seems way too long for kids, but the last time we were there we took a ride to the Woods restaurant mid-day. We had a couple drinks, did some duck pin bowling, and called a carriage to take us back to the main street. At times the carriage taxis may be busy, so call at least 1/2 ahesd of time to schedule a pick up.

Other things we like to do are play on the playground in front of the fort, get sandwiches at the deli in front of Misson Point and have lunch on the lawn overlooking the water. The Yankee Tavern is one of our favorite restaurants for food and atmosphere. There%26#39;s also a Brian%26#39;s BBQ that serves food right on the sidewalk (close to Harbour View Inn). And of course shop in the hokey stores down the main street.

Just as a FYI, although it%26#39;s an island there isn%26#39;t any beach to swim.

How long are you planning on staying? If you%26#39;re looking for a week, you might want to combine it with a couple nights elsewhere. For us 3 nights on the island is perfect and 4 would be pushing it. Maybe Mackinac City or Traverse City. For Traverse City, we%26#39;ve enjoyed staying at the Cherry Tree Inn and the Bayshore.

For maybe another suggestion... Last year my sister visited a place in Ohio called Geneva on the Lake. To me it sounded very quaint like Mackinac Island. I%26#39;ve been checking it out every now and then. The Geneva on the Lake Lodge looks realy nice. Have you ever been?

Just to follow up on one suggestion LoveVacations had, below is the web site to Geneva on the Lake Lodge. It is called The Lodge at Geneva on the Lake

http://www.thelodgeatgeneva.com/

There are lots of great suggestions given. We have taken our four children (now ages 15-21) for two weeks since they were born, so obviously we love it. But I strongly agree with those who say to bring your own bikes. We have always used a bike trailer behind one of our bikes for the kids. A car seat will fit in one nicely and our kids napped great in one! You would need 2 for 3 children your ages. For the price you would pay to rent them, I would check out Craig%26#39;s list or garage sales and just buy them. There are several playgrounds and fun places for the kids. Use your bikes and stay out of town during the middle of the day when it is crazy. We always take a cooler and pack picnics so you can stop whenever they are hungry or need a break.

houghton/hancock hotels, motels, b&b

Attempting to find accommodations for Mich. Tech winter festival Feb 5th %26amp; 6th, 2010. Would like suggestions of good places to stay. Many are already booked for the special event weekend. What does it take to get a room??? Thanks for any advice from you Houghton/Hancock specialists.

hotel for a Toddler

My husband and I would like to visit TC with our 15 month old. Ideally I would like something with a kitchen/living area plus bedroom. And be on the first floor so that we can walk right out to the beach. Haven%26#39;t been to TC as a ';family'; yet so any lodging recommendations would be helpful.

hotel for a Toddler

You may want to try the Hampton Inn and Suites on 28th St., I have stayed at that one before, and it has a basic indoor pool and it was a nice hotel. Good breakfast, too.

hotel for a Toddler

I am not familiar with a Hampton Inn/Suites on 28th St. in TC... But the the TC CVB publiction (and maybe their web page) lists anumber of properties with kitchenettes - like Days Inn/Suite, Traverse Bay Inn, Great Wolf Lodge... I%26#39;ve used The Beach Condominiums (motel/condos) and they had kitchen/living areas as well. Check out the CVB Lodging information.

Hopefully someone else can help you with your lodging specifications. While the Great Wolf Lodge is nice (and fun), it is definitely not on or very near the beach.

It%26#39;s been a few years, but we stayed at the Cherry Tree Inn and really like it. Everyone was really nice, and everything was clean. They groomed their beach every morning. When we were there the beach was great for our little ones because you had to go out really far for it to get deep. We only stayed in a regular room on one of their upper floors, but I believe they have rooms that walk right out to the beach.

http://www.cherrytreeinn.com/

Friends of our like staying at the North Shore Inn:

http://www.northshoreinn.net/welcome.htm

Sorry LoveVacations, but ';kitchen/living area'; was on my mind.. and the North Shore Inn is listed as having a kitchenette.

Woops, this MI DE made a huge mistake. I am so sorry! This Hampton Inn and Suites is in Grand Rapids. I swear there was a question concerning Grand Rapids. I will have to check..LOL. Sorry about that, again!

Dinner after graduation

I am looking for ideas of places to go for dinner after graduation. I%26#39;m thinking it might be easiest to go somewhere that takes reservations - and ideas? (probably a party of 15). Thank you.

Dinner after graduation

This is more towards the Okemos area, only a few miles from East Lansing. We have relatives in that area, so I%26#39;m not really familiar with the area, but one place that comes to mind is Stillwater Grill

http://www.stillwatergrill.com/

I don%26#39;t know what type of restaurant you%26#39;re looking for, but there%26#39;s also a Cracker Barrel. You%26#39;d have to check, but they might take reservations for a large party.

Olive Garden

Clara%26#39;s Lansing Station in Lansing

Dinner after graduation

I%26#39;m going to graduation too, my daughter is graduating! We are going here:

www.dustyscellar.com/index.cfm?goto=wine_bar

What is your price range? Do you want something casual or a little fancier? What type of food does your group like? This will all be helpful in giving some recommendations.

I love Stillwater Grill in Okemos. There is also a Japanese Hibachi restaurant in Okemos on Grand River Ave. before the mall called Ukai. Very entertaining for all and the food is very good.

There are a number of good restaurants in Lansing on Lake Lansing Road right by the exit of US-127. The Eastwood Towne Center has all kinds of restaurants from Bravo for Italian, to Smokey Bones for BBQ to PF Chang%26#39;s to Mitchell%26#39;s for seafood to sandwich places and pubs.

For something a bit nicer but also a slight drive, how about The English Inn in Eaton Rapids or perhaps the Red Cedar Grill in Williamston. Any of these restaurants may work for you!

Congratulations on this wonderful accomplishment for your daughter and for you. As an alumnae of MSU, I applaud her work! My niece is a freshman at State and my daughter is considering attending when she finishes high school. It is a wonderful, beautiful school!

GO STATE! Moms

Easter Monday

What is open for shopping on this day in Traverse City. Booked a couple of nights and then realized things might be closed. Thanks for your help

Easter Monday

I would assume most stores would be open on the Monday after Easter, after all, it is no longer the typical Spring Break time for schools. I would say back to business as usual, except for a few restaurants that are always closed on Mondays.

Easter Monday

No unusual closures for Easter Monday... business as usual. Spring break, for TC, will be over.. and, hopefully, spring will be here.

Easter Monday isn%26#39;t a holiday in the States.

Can you speak to restaurants that would be open on Easter Sunday?%26gt;

I couldn%26#39;t be completely certain on all restaurants in TC.. but here is a link to their phone numbers www.downtowntc.com/merchants/restaurants/ . I just left one of our newer (and I think better) ones, Phil%26#39;s On Front Street, and they%26#39;ll be open for sure. Some usual recommendations are: Apache Trout Grill, Stella, Amical, Red Ginger. Enjoy your planning.

spbill - thank you so much. What is Phil%26#39;s like? I am from Sault Ste. Marie and I go to Traverse City at least 2x%26#39;s a year and have done so for about 20years. Usually it is just for shopping with my mom or to Great Wolf with the kids. This trip is with my husband and we are staying at the Park Place and then casino each for one night (we have never stayed at either property) - we know there are better places but we are VERY careful when it comes to our consumption of alcoholic beverages and driving. Given that we are planning on some cocktails and enjoyable dining and then some ching ching we decided to stay within walking distance only of our past times :)) I am doing a couple hours of shopping but other then that we will be downtown so I hope a few places are open for us to check out. Any comments on new places would be much appreciated. Thanks

MJ

colorstay

I need GOOD food, but fun atmosphere!

Help! We%26#39;ll be hosting a rehearsal dinner in Kalamazoo, but don%26#39;t live in the area. The bride and groom are very fond of Bell%26#39;s Brewery, but the food isn%26#39;t what we%26#39;re looking food. Formality isn%26#39;t the thing, but a quality experience is... Can you help? THANKS!

I need GOOD food, but fun atmosphere!

You might consider Ole Peninsula, that is near the Bells Bar.

I need GOOD food, but fun atmosphere!

Try Food Dance. Great food and fun atmosphere. Also, very close to Bell%26#39;s.

www.fooddancecafe.com

Monocco Bay - last time I was there the food was good, is a dueling piano bar and has a great atmosphere.

Next to Monoco Bay is the The Wild Bull - your guests could ride the mechanical bull!

Food Dance is always good. Another idea would be Cosmo%26#39;s Cucina which is above an irish pub.

http://www.cosmoscucina.com/index.html

You might also consider Zazios at the Radisson - they have a small private room - we really enjoy the food and the experience. (They also have a %26#39;chef%26#39;s table%26#39; dinner, but it might be limited to 10-12 people)

Another top choice might be Bravo Restaurant - (on Portage Road, close to the airport, easy to find)

Or also in the downtown area - Epic Bistro or Fandangos (for Tapas)

Have fun!

Nan C

We will hosting a rehearsal dinner in Kalamazoo this June, I was wondering if there are any new places to consider along with the ones already mentioned? Also looking for good food and a fun atmosphere to accomodate a group of 35-40.

There is also a fairly new Wine Loft in downtown Kazoo. You might check this out - we really like the food, atmosphere and of course the wines.

Mangia, Mangia is also new. They are in offshoot of La Cantina in Paw Paw and have great Italian food. I haven%26#39;t been to Mangia Mangia yet, but am a frequent patron of La Cantina. BB

Burdicks downtown or in the Holiday Inn has good food...not really a party atmosphere so much, but you can watch sports on TV...Id say the downtown location is more ';fun';. Plus if you are a student you get 50% off on Sundays %26amp; Wednesdays.

I think Wild Bull and Monaco Bay are great...just keep in mind that Matt G. from American Idol worked at those places as well as Zazios and they tend to be quite busy on the days that American Idol is on...plus any other specials they are doing with AI...

upper michigan hotels, motels, bed/breakfast

OK...it is difficult to get responses for Houghton/Hancock forums, guess not too many folks visit up there. But thought I%26#39;d try general UP forums. Anyone familiar with winter carnival on Feb 5 th and 6th in Houghton. Darn near impossible to find accommodations for that weekend. Any suggestions from anyone in the UP as to where to stay in that area.

upper michigan hotels, motels, bed/breakfast

Here%26#39;s one suggestion their website shows available rooms:

http://www.lauriummanorinn.com/

If you can%26#39;t find rooms in H/H try Calumet or even Baraga.

upper michigan hotels, motels, bed/breakfast

Hello tacobill,

The Best Western in Baraga is a nice place. I stayed there last May.

bestwesternmichigan.com/hotels/…

You need to book that 6-12 months prior to Winter Carnival. It%26#39;s the biggest event in the Houghton area. Any place you look at books up fast.

As you plan your trip up north....

check out the Traverse Magazine website www.mynorth.com

Lots of great info and links to help you make plans for your summer (or spring, fall or winter) vacation.

As you plan your trip up north....

I love that magazine and website! Thanks for putting that info out there, 1st!

As you plan your trip up north....

Hello Lisa! We just booked our flights to Michigan for July. We%26#39;ll be there to see you between the 15th-21st. And looking forward to it...

Hey Red!

What great timing you have. Tim ';Frogman'; Cotterill will be at the gallery while you are here. Our artist show is July 17th %26amp; 18th. I%26#39;m glad you%26#39;ll get to meet him.

Lisa

That is the BEST news! I can%26#39;t wait! I%26#39;ll wear my shirt!

Wedding reception ideas?!

Hi!

I would like to find a nice rental to hold a reception for around 150 people in the Detroit and metro Detroit area this summer. Ideally, I could bring and serve my own liquor and hire my own caterer.

Any alternative ideas or venues are welcome and appreciated.

Wedding reception ideas?!

I have no idea how the cost compares to your budget, but we attended a company Christmas party a year ago for around 150 people at Henry Ford Museum, and it was amazing. It was after hours, so we had the entire museum to ourselves, and food was set up at buffet stations in the central open area, with tables scattered throughout for eating.

thehenryford.org/privateevents/…weddings.aspx

Wedding reception ideas?!

I love the Henry Ford Museum and actually did a corporate event for 150 people there; it was very expensive, but also very nice. Unfortunately, a really major cost is setting up and tearing down while the Museum is closed. You will have to hire a company to do this.

You won%26#39;t be permitted into the Museum until it closes at 5:00 p.m. and you have to set up very quickly for an evening event, then restore everything before opening time in the morning. These are very high costs that you would not incur were you to use another venue.

Many places will not let you serve your own liquor or hire your own caterer. I don%26#39;t know their policies re these points, but I recommend that you begin your research by looking at some of the historical homes in the metro area: Fairlane Estate in Dearborn, Meadowbrook, Edsel and Eleanor Ford House in Grosse Pointe, etc.

All would be ideal for a summer wedding reception. Country clubs and public golf courses with nice banquet facilities would be other ideas. There are dozens of possibilities, but they fill up fast. (My daughter%26#39;s reception was at Fox Hills near Plymouth and both the setting and the food were excellent.)

These are just a few ideas.

That last post made me think of another. I don%26#39;t know about allowing private catering, but St. John%26#39;s conference center in Plymouth is gorgeous. They have several rooms that are really nice, and the atrium (actually downstairs when you enter through the main doors) is unbelievably beautiful. Brick with street-type lamps, and floor-to-ceiling wrap-around windows.

Well we went to a wedding reception at the Lions Club in Washington township and were we surprised at how nice the venue was. Typically when you think of VFW, KOC, and lions Clubs you think of small crowded dingy rooms but this was not that at all. They also had a great outdoor patio area for guests and I am almost positive that they let the bride/groom bring in liquor and their own caterer. The web link is www.washingtonlions.org/banquetcenter.php.

You may also want to check the Club Venetian Banquet Hall near Royal Oak. Not sure what their policies but I thought my friend said that they were flexible as well

For catering I would whole heartedly recommend Cranks. They have two locations: Warren %26amp; Utica. We used them for our outdoor wedding reception several years ago and the price, service, and food were excellent. We were also able to rent linens through them at a very reasonable cost and we did not have to launder them prior to returning. With regards to the liquor, find a store that will allow you to return unopened bottles to save on cost. We used Manny%26#39;s Liquor in Rochester who provided delivery %26amp; ice as well.

Another option for your reception would be to hold an outdoor party under a large tent in someone%26#39;s backyard or at a park (I think Stoney Creek Metro has a tent set up for weddings during the summer). It would allow you the flexibility that you are looking for. We used Classic Rents (586-254-2775) in Sterling Heights and they provided the tent, tables, chairs, flooring, bar equipment. Very happy with the price and service.

If you find a place that will let you supply your own liquor, go to Canada to buy it. You will still have to pay duty when you bring it to the US, but it is under $3 per liter.

For example, a liter of Canadian Club whisky will run you at least $18 in Michigan - the price is fixed by the state so no chance of getting it cheaper. I picked it up at the tunnel a couple months ago for $11 CAD, or under $9 US with the exchange. Even if they hit me with duty (they were nice and didn%26#39;t) it would be $12. Not every liquor is a great deal, so check prices here before you go. Whisky, vodka and rum have always been good buys for me.

You have to cross into Canada to buy on the other side or the river. The tunnel is probably easiest due to construction near the bridge. Just make sure you declare everything you bought to Customs when you re-enter the US. Four of us brought back about 15 liters plus a couple cases of beer and the CBP officer was nice enough to not make us pay. Others have made me pay for less. It all depends on the officer%26#39;s personality, mood and how busy they are. (Saying you are getting married probably won%26#39;t hurt). If you do have to pay, it is a 5-10 minute stop at secondary - I think it is cash/check only too.

Bridge: http://www.ambassadorbridge.com/abdf/

Tunnel: http://tunneldutyfree.com/

Cranks is the caterer for Stoney Creek (and I believe the other metro parks). That is a good idea if you are okay with the outdoor tent idea. Cranks is a very good caterer with many choices of food.

I believe you also arrange your own caterer at the Van Hoosen Farm and Musuem in Rochester Hills. They have beautiful gardens and an indoor and outdoor area that can be used for weddings. (Cannot accommodate 150 inside - only outside.)

rochesterhills.org/city_services/museum/your…

If you end up going with a golf course I recommend two: Cherry Creek in Shelby and Twin Lakes in Rochester Hills (Oakland Township). GEORGEOUS facilities but expensive.

Less expensive options are: Rochester Community House (rochestercommhouse.org/Rentals/Wedding.htm

or Oak Arbor Church and banquet facility - you have to use their caterer:

www.oakarbor.org/weddings/catering/index.html

I have been to a wedding at Oak Arbor and was very impressed with their facility. They also serve family style which was different. People seemed to enjoy it.

Good luck.

Remembered one other place I heard about - The zoo rents out space for weddings:

detroitzoo.org/News%10Events/…

Longacre House, a historic house in Farmington Hills, often hosts weddings, showers, etc. Here is their link:

…farmington-hills.mi.us/Community/ParksandFa…

Good Breakfast Diner

Does anyone know a good diner that is good for breakfast? It can be a hole in the wall local place since they seem to be the best. Thanks.

Good Breakfast Diner

The Omelette Shop and Bakery. Downtown.

Good Breakfast Diner

Mabels%26#39; is good, too. We have had good luck at Mabel%26#39;s every time, but the reviews on Trip are not all that good, maybe average. But I can only speak from our experience. Good portions, good prices, busy all the time.

The Omelette Shop seems to be a consistent tourist favorite, although some of us think it has declined in recent years. More obscure, though also downtown, is the Green House Cafe... a better breakfast. ';Hole in the wall'; ?? Try the downtown J%26amp;S Hamburgs for breakfast... basic %26amp; definitely ';local';. Also, The Hard Luck Cafe (across from the Bay Shore Motel near the Holiday Inn) is a good choice. A morning in Suttons Bay would require The 45th Parallel Cafe. Enjoy your mornings.

Thanks for all the suggestions! We will be there for only 2 days so I%26#39;ll have to choose wisely from your lists.

For a short stay you have to try the Omelette shoppe for sure... there are two locations... one downtown and one on the East side of town right on the main stretch. It%26#39;s in a plaza. Try and get there before 10am on the weekends ... and by all means... try the cinnamon rolls..... OH MY!

Try Rounds - it%26#39;s less money than the Omelette Shoppe. It%26#39;s at Eighth and Garfield. Definitely a diner, and great breakfasts.

colorstay

Memorial Day Getaways from Ann Arbor

My husband and I are not native Michiganders and have been living in AA for about 3 years now. Last year we went to Saugatuck for Memorial Day, which I loved but my husband was bored.

What are you favorite getaways either in Michigan or nearby? A similar drive time to Saugatuck is what we%26#39;re looking for (less than 4 hours). Please don%26#39;t say Chicago because that%26#39;s where we%26#39;re from :).

Memorial Day Getaways from Ann Arbor

Up North.

When you live in Michigan, that%26#39;s where you go to get away. There are lots of towns and lakes and golf courses and scenic destinations to be found Up North.

Memorial Day Getaways from Ann Arbor

From what I understand ';up north'; can be way more than a 3-4 hour drive to get there from AA. Any specific recommendations within that time frame?

I drive from A2 to Harbor Springs in about 4 hours. Consider Charlevoix, Petoskey, even Gaylord. Mackinac is just a little farther. Think just over 4 hours, and then getting to the Island takes time on the ferry, but sooner or later, you%26#39;ve got to visit Mackinac Island.

And tymetraveler222 can probably give you some ideas in the thumb region. In fact she%26#39;s a DE for the whole state! So see what she offers when she responds to your post.

What does your husband enjoy doing on vacations? What bored him about Saugatuck? It%26#39;s difficult to make recommendations without knowing what type of trip you%26#39;re looking for.

As in all things in the north having a good time can be weather dependent. Going ';up north'; can be risky over Memorial Day.

Not knowing what your hubby likes makes it a bit hard to respond but... how about Cleveland (3hours) for rock and roll hall of fame? Could swing by Cedar Point for a day if you are into roller coasters.

Splurge for couple of days as a Detroit tourist, stay in the Ren Cen Marriot, take the Diamond Jack river boat tour (if weather is nice), the tour is really enjoyable, ride the people mover to lunch in Greek Town or at the Hard Rock Cafe. Fancy dinner at the top of the Ren Cen at Coach Insignia, some gambling at a casino, spend a day at the Henry Ford and Greenfield Village or the Detroit zoo which has an amazing polar bear exhibit.

Is he into military airplanes? My father in law spent two days at the US Airforce museum in Dayton on his drive from NC to AA. Could combine that with Cincinnati? Or how about Toldeo, art museum, Mudhens, zoo....

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Ah yes, I realized after I posted that I did leave out quite a bit of information. Sorry about that.

We stayed at a B%26amp;B in Saugatuck, which I loved. We visited the SS Keewatin, which was the only thing he loved :). I think Saugatuck was too quiet for him with not enough options for activities (aside from shopping and art). I really enjoyed the beach, but it was pretty chilly and he thought it was too uncomfortable to be worthwhile. He is really into military stuff...the Army Museum in Paris was his absolute favorite.

The rock and roll hall of fame is a great idea. Thanks for that suggestion. I think that is something we would both enjoy. That and the Airforce museum are two options I hadn%26#39;t considered. We are both into outdoor activities like boating and hiking. I%26#39;m hoping for a mix of a B%26amp;B, some fun and different activities with some outdoor recreation thrown in. It%26#39;s a lot to ask for, I know.

We%26#39;re doing a mini-Detroit tourist weekend in June and I am really looking forward to that. A few nights at the Cadillac Book, dinner at Roast, etc. Should be great :).

Thank you!

The Air Museum at Wright Patterson AFB in Dayton is truly wonderful. I%26#39;d highly recommend that as an option with his interest in the military. I don%26#39;t know much else about the area, but it%26#39;s not far from Cincinnati. You%26#39;ve definitely got B%26amp;B and hiking options in the Cincinnati area, plus downtown restaurant and entertainment options, sports, etc.

Another option for now or future is Toronto. It%26#39;s about 4 hours by car and offers all the normal city things, but still has a pretty different feel from Chicago and a lot of historic sights.

Kalamazoo is a closer-to-home getaway with a nice downtown feel and an Air %26amp; Space museum, plus easy access to Grand Rapids.

I agree with jenifera2 about Toronto. We went there a few years back to see the Lion King. We had a very nice weekend there and actually it was over Memorial Day now that I think of it. We spent time at the CN Tower as well. Some in our group did upscale shopping and some did a hockey museum.

Also have you been to Niagra Falls? I know it is a bit further than the 4 hour driving limit but worth a visit once in your lifetime.

Which state park campground?

Can anyone tell me which campground is the best one out of the following?

Mitchell State Park in Cadillac

Interlochen State Park

Orchard Beach in Manistee

We have two smaller children (4 %26amp; 6), so I was thinking something with an inland lake may be better. We are going in late July for a four day weekend and Ludington and Muskegon State Parks are already booked up (those were my first choices).

Thanks!

Which state park campground?

Jeanine,

I haven%26#39;t stayed at any of the parks you mentioned but I would like to add another one to your list for consideration. Burt Lake State Park Inland lake, nice sandy beach that goes out shallow for a long way. We stayed here when our daughter was 3 and it was perfect. (of course she is 23 now, but we still visit the park). It is within biking distance (1 mile) of Indian River. Putt Putt course across the road and lots of other fun stuff to do. It is also 30 minutes or less to Gaylord, Petoskey and Mackinaw City/Island for day trips.

Which state park campground?

The kids would enjoy Silver Lake if you can get in there.

Take a look at the Jellystone parks, the kids would enjoy those too.

Grand Haven and Silver Lake each have one.

They are a bit expensive but worth it with young children.

I stayed at Interlochen when I was a child and hated the lake with it%26#39;s stony bottom.

And I won%26#39;t even mention the crayfish, oops, I did.

I second Burt Lake State Park in Indian River...perfect for families, great small town atmosphere, lots to do in the immediate area and tons of major Northern Michigan attractions within a half hour drive. Burt Lake is the third or fourth largest inland lake in Michigan...beautiful sandy beach, clean water, great swimming/boating...just an overall great experience.

Of the 3, I would say Mitchell in Cadillac. I personally love Orchard Beach, but the steps down to the beach would be a bit difficult, carrying all of you beach gear, and holding their hands. There is a very nice, sandy beach just down the road though, very little parking, but very accessible. No bathrooms, however. Mitchell is a nice park, a bit crowded, small sites. But they have a camper%26#39;s beach right in the campground, plus the main one across the street, with a nice playground and a lot of picnic tables. You can access by a sidewalk under the bridge, if needed. You can also walk to McDonald%26#39;s or an ice cream store, easily.

Orchard beach is not well wooded.

Mitchell is not great for swimming beaches, and not near Lake Michigan coast.

Interlochen is best; large, wooded, with nice swimming lake, and near a lot of attractions, Lake Mich, and scenic areas.

Two plusses about Interlochen State Park:

1. Walking distance to Interlochen itself, with the possibility of free or nearly free music.

2. Activities within the park itself - we went on a night hike once looking for owls.

One minus:

There are about 500 campsites, so it can get really crowded.

A really nice park near Indian River is Aloha State Park. It is on Mullet Lake, the beach is really nice, you can go out a ways before it gets deep. It is also a sand bottom. What is really nice about this park is the beach runs along the campground. You can even have a site that is right up to the water. However, I would not recommend those sites unless you have a trailer or motorhome. Reason is that it the wind is coming across the lake it can get very windy. We had a site right up against the woods, and it was only a short walk to the beach. If you have a boat, there is a waterway (canel) you can leave it in. Or some people actually anchor it out in the lake, and walk in to the campsite. There is also a little walkway out into the water. Sunsets there are great. Actually, alot of these lakes (Burt, Mullet etc) are all connected, and I heard that you can actually start at one and go all the way up to Lake Michigan/Machinaw. Very nice park with a small store (great for ice, fresh cook donuts in am, pop)--anything big you should drive to city. It is about less than an hour from Machinaw City. I think the kids would really like the beach there. Plenty of it, and it is only the campers that can used it.

hiking

does anyone have any ideas on any side trips from Dearborn that would offer the opportunity to hike and enjoy nature? something that a whole family could do?

thanks

hiking

How long are you willing to drive? There are many parks with trails within an hour of Dearborn but I need a limit of what you are willing to drive and I can help you better.

hiking

Hines Park Drive near Dearborn is an urban nature park road 20km long, stop and park to hike anywhere.

Maybury State Park (parking fee about $5) on 8 Mile Road just W of Northville has many miles of hiking trails and large wooded areas, also horseback riding. Take I-96 W until it turns into M-14(past I-275), exit N (right) onto Beck Road..go N on Beck 6km to 8 Mile Road, turn left and watch for the park on the left side of 8 Mile within 1 km.

You could wander around the henry ford estates. Theres nature and history.

Kensington Metro Park is also not too far west from there if you can drive to it OK. Look it up. Nice trails, around a lake. You can reach it just off I-96. Enjoy.

colorstay

transportation from central to Washington county

I will be arriving at the central Greyhound Station at 6pm.

My friends live in Washington County about 50 minutes north.

How can I reach them without them having to drive and collect me.

If all else fails, how much would a taxi cost approximately?

transportation from central to Washington county

I assume you mean Washington Township, around 26 Mile and M-53. There is no Washington County in MI.

A taxi is going to be $75+. www.taxifarefinder.com/main.php?city=Detroit

There is really no public transportation option that far north. You can get as far north as Shelby Township/Utica, but it would probably be long and painful. Check smartbus.org for schedules/routes.

transportation from central to Washington county

There is no Washington County north of Detroit. Do you mean Washington Township?

Unfortunately public transit in the Detroit area is almost non-existent and the area around the Greyhound station is a little sketchy, so having your friends drive into the city is probably the best option.

As for a cab, your best bet would be to contact a cab company and ask. When you take a taxi that far outside the city, some charge you for the return trip because there%26#39;s no chance the driver will pick-up a fare on his return. Two of the larger companies are Checker and City Cab.

You could compare the price of a cab to a sedan. It would be a little nicer and would be waiting for you when you arrived. Checker has sedans or try Metro Cars for a price quote.

You probably meant to say Washington TOWNSHIP, which is a suburban area in Macomb County, north of Detroit.

There isn%26#39;t a lot of public transportation in the Detroit area and none at all from downtown Detroit to Washington Township, so the best you could do is to get part-way there and then have your friends pick you up.

Possibilities from the Greyhound Station would be to take buses (you will have to transfer) from the Detroit Greyhound Station to Utica, Michigan, Troy, Michigan or Pontiac, Michigan. Travel time (one-way) would be 75 minutes to just under 2 hours, depending upon destination and day of week.

To plan your trip by bus, see www.smartbus.org and use their Plan Your Trip feature. Use the Greyhound Station in Detroit as your starting point and then try whichever suburban destination your friends say is closer (in time, not distance) to their house. Be sure to plug in the time you will be leaving Detroit.

Not sure about taxi fares, but based upon fares to other places, would guess something in the $100-$125 range, each way. A rental car would be the most convenient option, though the rental car offices in downtown Detroit close at 6 p.m., which wouldn%26#39;t work for you. [You could call rental car companies to make sure; maybe they have alternative, after-hours pick-up.]

Detroit Metro Airport rental car locations are open, but the airport is in the western suburbs and getting there by bus or taxi would be another hassle or a major expense ($40 or so).

Sorry not to have more encouraging news. Honestly, the best option probably would be to have your friends pick you up. As a thank you, you could treat them to dinner at one of the restaurants in Greektown, a lively downtown Detroit area.

I live near Washington Township. Honestly have your friends come pick you up- We can be in Detroit in 30-45 minutes with traffic, but you are arriving just as Michigan State is playing @ Ford Field in the Final four. Best co-ordinate this into your friends driving time to avoid the rush going into the city earlier than you will arrive. And.. Go Green!

The travel date of the original poster really isn%26#39;t clear. It might be today or his/her ';I will be arriving . . . .at 6 p.m.'; might refer to a future date. But even if the Final Four isn%26#39;t in progress when they get here, I think all of us think that the best option is to have friends do the pick up.

What date are you arriving? I assemed from your post yu meant 4-4-08

millies restaurant

why did they close up on west rd and change name to

rams horn?

Detroit Greyhound Station

I am thinking about taking a trip and I would have to switch buses at the Detroit Station around midnight.

I would be going alone and worried about safety.

Has anyone been there before at night? Is it secure?

Do you wait inside or outside?

Thanks for any help

Detroit Greyhound Station

According to their website, its open 24/7/365. Its not in the greatest part of town but its not that bad either. In my experience riding greyhound its not always the highest class customers that uses their services but as long as its inside and you%26#39;re not there for too long, I would say you are safe.

DETROIT GREYHOUND STA

1001 HOWARD ST

Detroit, MI 48226

Telephone Numbers

Main: 313-961-8011

Baggage: 313-961-6870

Greyhound Package Express: 313-961-9817

Customer Service: 313-961-8005

Greyhound Charter: 800-454-2487

Hours of operation subject to change. Please call to verify hours before making travel arrangements.

Monday-Sunday: 24 hours

Holiday: 24 hours

Detroit Greyhound Station

You should be ok - just be ';heads up'; and aware of what%26#39;s going on around you.

YOu wait inside, BTW.

My little brother is in town for the Championship game and we are trying to find a hotel near the greyhound station for him to stay in because no bus leaves until morning. We don%26#39;t want him spending the night in the station...any last minute help??

Ali815-

Has he already gone this morning; or are you looking for a hotel tonight? If it is tonight or on a later date, what is your price range?

The price range is fairly flexible...we possibly found a room and he did in fact leave for Detroit today. We are still searching though, and he wouldn%26#39;t need to check it until later tonight, or even after the game (around midnight).

Doubletree Ft. Shelby is relatively close and so is the Holiday Inn Express. Farther away (but a short taxi ride or a long walk) are the Hilton Garden Inn, the Courtyard and the new Greektown Casino Hotel ($99 specials advertised). There are other hotels, of course. Some are rather pricey and some others cater to the ';by the hour'; trade; I excluded both categories. Hope this helps.

thank you so much! looking into them right now!

Forgot to mention, but Hotwire is a very good booking source and it offers sharp discounts. Priceline is good as well.

The only problem with Hotwire is that, while their site tells you the area and the star rating for the hotel, it doesn%26#39;t give you the name of the specific property until you book with them. The booking is not refundable.

Most people get around this by writing down the specific amenities of a few hotels (e.g., indoor pool, on-site restaurant, etc.), trying for a luxury place and then using this indirect way to compare hotels and ID the one offered by Hotwire. It is a pain, but I have managed to find deep discounts this way a couple of times.

Fishing on the inland lakes of Isle Royale

My husband will be traveling to Isle Royale this summer, most likely July. He is interested in fishing info regarding the inland lakes. Any fishermen out there? Specifically Lakes Siskiwit, Woodlake,Intermediate,Richie,Whittlesey,and Chippewa Harbor. Fishing will be from a kayay or canoe with camping along the way. Thanks !

Fishing on the inland lakes of Isle Royale

I wish I could answer this one, that sounds like a fun trip. Something that specific, your going to be better off going to outdoor websites IMO.

Paradise to Grand Marais, MI

Is there a good way to get to Grand Marais, MI from Paradise without going through Newberry? Is there a shortcit that is good road? Is the truck trail a bumpy cowpath?

Paradise to Grand Marais, MI

Hello babusIndiana,

Are you looking at going from Paradise over to H 37 to Muskallonge Lake/State Park then going along the Deer Park Truck Trail? If you are it is not what I would call a bumpy cow path. I think the road is fine for travel. You wouldn%26#39;t want to cruise it at 60mph and there are no traffic lights but the road is a nice easy drive.

Paradise to Grand Marais, MI

It is easy to lose your way on those back roads. Not a distaster, but it could mean it takes longer to take the shortcut.

To be a little more clear - that is if you take the secondary roads cutting off most of H37 and a section of 123.

Also H-58 can be pretty tough in the spring.

We usually visit the falls and then head to grand Marais by traveling south through Newberry and then heading west and then north. Seems like there should be a shortcut. Not many roads on the map to choose from. I have a GPS system, but it may not work well up north. do locals traveling to Grand Marais take M123 to M28 to M77? or do they have a shorter/less time consuming route?

from the park, go North to Paradise and turn right, toward grand Marais

Best places to stay to explore Keweenaw peninsula?

My husband and I will be visiting the Keweenaw peninsula late July/early August. We usually unpack our suitcases in one hotel/B%26amp;B and drive 30 miles in any direction to explore. Is this a good approach to take for the Keweenaw area? Or is it better to stay in Copper Harbor itself to see Northern Lights and get the full Keweenaw experience?

Input on not-too-rustic places to stay would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you in advance for your input.

Best places to stay to explore Keweenaw peninsula?

The Laurium Manor Inn is a nice B%26amp;B (www.laurium.info). It%26#39;s central to the Keweenaw.

Best places to stay to explore Keweenaw peninsula?

We too are looking for suggestions for lodging while visiting Keweenaw Peninsula. Our trip is planned for this July 3, 4, %26amp; 5. I have checked out the reviews but the choices are over-whelming. I have also received a brochure (Adventure Guide) from Keweenaw tourism but again, too many choices. There will be six of us (three couples) on motorcycles. We don%26#39;t necessarily have to have 4-star hotels; as a matter of fact, wouldn%26#39;t want to pay for 4-stars either! Some things we look for are internet access; pool; breakfast; and lake view. Not all of these are necessary but it would be great to find some or all of these for a reasonable price.

Also, since we will be on the Keweenaw Penisula for the Fourth, is there a fireworks display in any of the communities?

If you are interested in staying in Copper Harbor here is one option:

http://www.atthelodge.com/lodging.php

Also, lots of Keweenaw information is available here:

http://www.pasty.com/

24Fan:

Thanks for the info. The Keweenah Mountain Lodge was on my list. However, the link for pasty.com was new for me. Thank for that link. My husband and I have been in the UP before and therefore knew we would have to have a pasty while there. We are looking forward to introducing the others in our group to those delicious meat pies.

Our family%26#39;s preference is to stay somewhere a bit more central than Copper Harbor if you%26#39;re basing somewhere for more than one night: Calumet-Laurium, Lake Linden, Houghton/Hancock; even outside of the cities proper are reasonable number of choices. Lots of options; I%26#39;ll add Hunt%26#39;s guide on-line as another resource. (check under individual cities for lodging choices):

hunts-upguide.com/keweenaw_peninsula.html

You might also check out vacation rentals for houses that are big enough for your entire group.

I love the Lake Breeze in Eagle Harbor, 906-289-4514 (no website). It%26#39;s a wonderfully simple but lovely place right on the water and next to the lighthouse, run by the great-granddaughter of the judge who built it in 1859. It%26#39;s ideally located for exploring the peninsula, but it can be hard to get rooms.

Or, for a treat, you could stay at the Sand Hills Lighthouse B%26amp;B near Ahmeek.

In Copper Harbor, the Lake Fanny Hooe Resort is on the lake and rents motel rooms, cottages and a chalet apartment unit. And, while it%26#39;s not very romantic, the Super 8 in Houghton has a really nice location on the waterway, walking distance from downtown.

Beth at MidwestWeekends.com

Some other sites:

http://www.coppercountry.com

http://www.copperharbor.org

There is an AmericInn in Calumet which would put you central to the Keweenaw. There is also the Laurium Manor Inn (http://www.laurium.info)

I would recommend the Super 8 or Travelodge in Houghton. Super 8 is right on Portage Lake with a beautiful view of the bridge, Travelodge is built into the hill right next to the bridge. They both have pools %26amp; saunas. The are inexpensive %26amp; comfortable. Centrally located with a large variety of restaurants nearby. Easy %26amp; scenic trip to Copper Harbor. Might I also suggest, if you are not claustrophobic, a tour of one of the mines in the area. Arcadia is on the other side of the lake from the hotels. Quite fascinating. Also, be sure to go up Brockway Mountain on the way to or from Copper Harbor. Beautiful view.

Enjoy

not too rustic, not too expensive, roomy, great setting;

www.attheloge.com

Thanks for all the advice from everyone. We have made our plans and I think we are going to be happy with them.

July 3rd - leave Munising and travel through Marquette on our way to the Keweenaw Peninsula. Tour Quincy mines. Take the ';tree tunnel'; drive to Copper Harbor. We are staying at the Bella Vista in Copper Harbor.

July 4th - drive up Brockway Mtn. See the fort at Copper Harbor, take a picture at the ';start of US-41'; sign. Maybe take in a couple of lighthouses. Back in our room, watch the 4th fireworks from just outside our rooms.

July 5th - head towards Wisconsin along the shore for some more scenery.

Icebreaker narrowly misses wayward deer

sooeveningnews.com/news/x1098984949/Deer-nar…

These deer were on the ice, but when I was about 12, we saw a deer swimming in the middle of the Straits of Mackinac when returning to Mackinaw City from the Island. The ferry (they were a lot slower back then), pulled close enough to give us a great look.

Icebreaker narrowly misses wayward deer

Great new story, Light. Thanks for putting it on Trip. I love stories like these, as you already know. LOL.

And your personal story is neat, too!

eateries

coming to tc the 13th of april and will be celebrating my sisters birthday. Would like some suggestions on a good place to eat that has smoking. We will be staying at the Baymont Inn if thats of any help, 1st trip so any knowledge of things to do would also be helpful

eateries

I have no idea on the smoking rules in TC, but The Blue Tractor is a kind of cool place. I think they do have a smoking section, at least it used to. We like it there a lot. What do you like to eat? That would give us more ideas....

eateries

As of last week, you could smoke at the bar tables in Blue Tractor. Looking for a smoking section eliminates Fine and Very Good (ambience and food) places. Apache recently went non-smoking. But, there are still places to eat, and eat fairly well, with smoking. Without apology, I%26#39;m mostly familiar with the bars w/ food: U%26amp;I, Brady%26#39;s, Union Street, South City Limits, Dillingers...you can smoke at all of them %26amp; they%26#39;re all within a few blocks of each other. Of these my favorite is Brady%26#39;s, but it%26#39;s not exactly a place for a ';celebration';. Take the smokes outside and enjoy one of TC%26#39;s many fine restaurants: Amical, Chefs House, Stells, Phils on Front, Hanna ... just do a search. Then have a smoke and a drink at the U%26amp;I or Bradys. Enjoy

Memorial Day weekend for Anniversairy..hotel rec pls

I%26#39;ve been going back and forth between many Detroit hotels and cannot seem to make up my mind on what I want. :) I have been reading reviews but I%26#39;d really like another opinion overall.

Basically my husband and I will be in town for memorial day weekend for our 1st anniversary. We want to see the Star Trek exhibit at the science center and the Star Trek movie on the IMAX (yes we are geeks). We also want to visit the zoo too. So while both of those are not in downtown Detroit, I like the idea of a hotel with a city view and a luxury feel. I don%26#39;t really want to stay at one of the casinos though. So the Westin, Marriot and Atheheum seem like nice downtown options. But there are other hotels that are further out that might be nicer as well. I also considered the Inn on Ferry St but my husband thinks that is a little too bed and breakfast for him. lol

Any suggestions on which hotel would be nicest for what I want and easy access to the Science Center and Zoo (which i know neither are close to downtown). If i am going to be downtown i would love a view.

Also if any of the above hotels have a nice shuttle service that would be nice and comparative cost of parking since it is obvious we will need a car.

Thank you in advance!

Memorial Day weekend for Anniversairy..hotel rec pls

Any of these hotels would work and all three are only a short drive to the Science Center. The drive to the zoo isn%26#39;t too bad from any of the hotels (about 10 miles or so if you go straight up Woodward Avenue; a bit longer if you take the freeway. I don%26#39;t think it necessary to drive out of the city for someplace different. If you actually do want to wander farther afield, the Townsend Hotel in suburban Birmingham (about 15 miles north of downtown) would be a good choice.

All three hotels are near People Mover stops, a cheap and convenient way to get around in downtown Detroit without the hassle of parking. Each of the hotels has parking available, both valet and self-park. Not sure of the parking charges for any except the Marriott (valet with in/out privileges in $25 per day, plus tips).

Of the three hotels mentioned, the Marriott at the Renaissance Center has the best view. It is the tallest hotel in the city (by far) and is on the river, so expansive views of both Detroit and Windsor, Ontario are available. Be sure to ask for a room with your desired view.

The Westin Book Cadillac is a recently-opened, beautifully restored hotel in a downtown area struggling to make a come-back. The hotel public areas and rooms are very nice; the area surrounding the Westin is a little sketchy (but OK). Some of the rooms have nice, city views.

The Atheneum is an all-suites hotel in a downtown neighborhood called Greektown, the most active part of Detroit (restaurants, bars, people watching). It was recently renovated.

Memorial Day weekend for Anniversairy..hotel rec pls

If it%26#39;s strictly view you want it would be hard to beat the Marriott @ the RenCen.

One centrally located hotel that we like a lot (in fact staying there this weekend) is the Hilton Garden Inn on Brush St.

Within walking distance are Greektown %26amp; the Greektown Casino, Ford Field, Comerica Park, Cheli%26#39;s Chili, Fox Theatre, Detroit Opera House, Hockeytown Cafe and lots of bars, restuarants etc. The People Mover has a station within a short walk as well.

HGI Is relatively new and well appointed with a friendly staff.

You would have to drive to the Science Center, the DIA the Zoo etc but you would have to do that from all of the downtown hotels.

I just recently stayed at the Book Cadillac for a wedding. The hotel was beautiful and many amenities, however I felt like you paid for the amenities. If you want luxury and a first class staff at a little bit higher of a price then I would suggest the Book. I’m a big fan of the Marriot and I think that its priced reasonably well. There is a people mover stop located in the GM building along with some really great restaurants (andiamos %26amp; coach insignia). Another choice would be the Courtyard Marriot across from the Marriot.

FYI, no pool at the Marriott (we usually stay at Marriotts) so we stay at the Westin Book Cadillac. It%26#39;s as nice as any Marriott I%26#39;ve stayed inm if not nicer. Their bed is not as good though. IMO, you can%26#39;t go wrong with it...

Thanks for the Hilton Garden Inn on Brush St. hotel rec. I hadn%26#39;t even considered that one. No idea why. It seems like a great place. Another contender and more affordable! So now view or no view...that is the question!

Thanks to all replies! I will let everyone know where we decide!

I know that you stated that you wanted to steer away from the casino hotels, but I would seriously consider the new Greektown Casino Hotel. It is connected to the gaming area, but is actually across the street, and is right in the heart of Detroit%26#39;s busiest nightlife area - Greektown. The views from this brand new 30-story hotel are also wonderful, if you are able to get the side of the hotel which faces the rest of downtown.

They%26#39;ve been offering $99 a night specials, and today announced they are cutting the price of their buffet, which is pretty nice, from $19 to $9.99

The Marriott RenCen is a wonderful business hotel, though I do not think I would recommend it for an anniversary. I would certainly consider the Greektown Hotel, the Book-Cadillac, The Atheneum, Hilton Garden Inn, and the newly restored Fort Shelby.

The Fort Shelby is a bit out of the way of the rest of downtown, but is near a people mover station, and is a beautifully restored hotel at a cheaper price than the Book-Cadillac.

Enjoy Detroit!

colorstay

Help decide on hotel/restaurant

Please help...I have a very bad back and can%26#39;t be at computer for more than a few mins. at a time. I need to decide between 3 hotels for hubby%26#39;s business trip. Doubletree Hotel, Dearborn, Hyatt Place Detroit/Livonia, and Embassy Suites Detroit/Livonia/Novi. I know all have pools, fitness but which is best/best(safe)location. He will be commuting toEast Bethune St. Also any good ';local';(non-chain) restaurants, and possible parks/jogging trails? THANKs for any/all help, would research myself but ';the back';!!!

Help decide on hotel/restaurant

Bethune is in the city of Detroit and all three hotels are in the suburbs, all of them in safe areas. Of the three, the Doubletree would be the closest commute for him, about 20 minutes each way. Dearborn has a number of national chain and also non-chain (or local chain) restaurants. In Dearborn, I could recommend Andiamo and Ciao for Italian, Miller%26#39;s Bar for burgers, Crave for trendy, Annam for Vietnamese, Mongolian BBQ for, well, Mongolian BBQ, Big Fish for seafood, for a start. Dearborn has lots of Arab restaurants as well.

The Hyatt Place and Embassy Suites are about 20-25 minutes west of Dearborn in an area with lots of shopping (two malls) and dozens of restaurants, most of them national chains. I am a little hard-pressed to think of a uniquely local restaurant in that area (I lived there for many years and travel there 3 times a week now), but some of the national chains are fairly good. Andiamo is a good local chain (I recommended them in Dearborn as well) with a location very close to both the Hyatt Place and Embassy Suites.

Drive time to Bethune Street from the Hyatt Place or Embassy Suites would be 35-45 minutes, depending upon time of day and traffic.

Downtown Detroit has a nice, safe area known as Greektown where your husband would have his choice of a number of Greek and other restaurants, could drop by the casino, etc.

Hope that this helps.

Help decide on hotel/restaurant

Embassy Suites is in a good safe location, but is more isolated from restaurants, stores.

Hyatt Place is in a very safe location also, and near huge numbers of restaurants, theaters, shopping of all kinds including grocery stores for room beverages, snacks.

Hyatt is also fairly close to the quaint downtown areas of Northville and Plymouth, and also near Hines Park drive, a miles-long park area for jogging, etc.

Box Bar in Plymouth is a casual restaurant for good sandwiches, on the park in Plymouth. Starting Gate bar is great for pizza, Center St in Northville. Alexanders near 7 Mile and Haggerty Rds has great quality food in a semi-casual atmosphere.

Both hotels are near quick access to I-96, to downtown Detroit.

Dearborn hotel may not be as safe as the other two. Hines Park runs from Northville to Dearborn, but is not as safe at the Dearborn end.

For proximity, I would go with the Dearborn location. The other locations will add 20-25 min to the drive each way. Check the reviews here on TA.

As tylerarb indicated, Dearborn%26#39;s West Village has a lot of good non-chain restos and Miller%26#39;s Bar, farther along Michigan Ave, was voted as having one of the burgers you should eat before you die by GQ magazine.

Downtown Detroit would be the closest, but I take it that the hotels there are not on your radar...

Don%26#39;t know about jogging trails or parks. I can check and get back to you.

I agree that the Doubletree would be quickest commute. I think they also have a shuttle to nearby shopping and attractions if you%26#39;ll be hanging around the hotel while he%26#39;s at work.

If you choose Dearborn, you can also try Buddy%26#39;s. They have deep-dish pizza, sandwiches and pasta. It%26#39;s a local chain, and I believe they also have a location in Livonia.

Another great restaurant in Dearborn is Westpoint Barbecue on Michigan Avenue between Telegraph Rd and Gulley. It%26#39;s pretty plain from the outside, but the food is great and you%26#39;ll have enough for lunch the following day.

For jogging, you could try the Henry Ford Community College and U of M-Dearborn Campuses. They%26#39;re around a mile southwest of the Doubletree.

Just to give you more geographical orientation, the Embassy Suites is just north of 7-Mile Road and about 100 yards east of I-275. It is a safe but not very exciting area of office buildings, a restaurant and open spaces. The Hyatt Place is about 1/4 mile west of I-275 and also north of 7-Mile Road (but closer to that street than the Embassy Suites hotel is.

The area near the Hyatt Place basically consists of a very large (1/2 mile?) parking lot with commercial buildings around the perimeter. One of those buildings is the Hyatt Place, another is a 21-screen movie theatre and the rest consists of national or multi-state chain restaurants, all of which are walkable from the Hyatt. The restaurants are brands you likely know: Bahama Breeze, J. Alexander, Champps, Romano%26#39;s Macaroni Grill. A mile south of there, you will find more national or multi-state chains: Bravo, Fleming%26#39;s, Mitchell%26#39;s, Papa Vino%26#39;s, P. F. Chang%26#39;s, among others.

As several of us have mentioned, both of these hotels are roughly double the distance to where your husband has to go, compared with the Doubletree. I don%26#39;t consider the Doubletree to be unsafe, but the nearby neighborhood isn%26#39;t as nice as the other two hotels. Hines Park is about 2 miles away and isn%26#39;t an unsafe area to ride or job. I ride my bike there all of the time. I agree that jogging on or near the college campuses (actually even closer than Hines Park) would be a great option.

One thing to know about staying to the west of Detroit, and driving to ';work'; in the New Center area (Bethune St) is that you get to drive into the sun both ways. Not my idea of fun.

Dearborn is at least closer than Livonia, so that much less time needs to be spent squinting through the glare.

In Dearborn I%26#39;d try to stay at The Dearborn Inn (it%26#39;s a Marriott) if at all possible. They have expansive grounds you could probably jog around. Use this link http://tinyurl.com/dk648e, then click on ';360 lawns and gardens'; for a look around.

There%26#39;s a dedicated pedestrian/bicycle trail very nearby-- message me for details.

The Dearborn Inn is very near The Henry Ford museum complex (http://www.thehenryford.org), and a long-ish walk or very short drive to the West Dearborn business district. There you%26#39;ll find a variety of restaurants, independent and chain, in a variety of price ranges-- as well as coffee shops, etc. http://tinyurl.com/cpw74h

Just a couple miles to the north is an area that%26#39;s very middle-eastern, with some wonderful arabic restaurants and a very special pastry shop/cafe, Shatila. yelp.com/biz/shatila-food-products-dearborn, http://www.yelp.com/biz/al-ameer-dearborn

Not too far to the east (toward downtown Detroit) is a hispanic neighborhood with many interesting restaurants-- from taco stands to more elaborate sit-down places to ones with live entertainment such as mariachi bands. Here are a few examples-- http://tinyurl.com/clc7gt,

http://tinyurl.com/dnb4dy, http://www.yelp.com/biz/las-brisas-detroit

Almost ';on the way home'; from Bethune St to Dearborn is Slow%26#39;s, a very popular independent BBQ restaurant. http://www.yelp.com/biz/slows-bar-bq-detroit

There is the St. Regis Hotel in the New Center area.

Doubletree has a newly restored hotel downtown, the Fort-Shelby, which would be a very quick commute to the new center area.

Personally, I%26#39;d rather stay downtown than the options you are picking between now. Quicker commute, nicer hotels, more to do.

Visiting Charlevoix End of April

My husband and I are attending a family wedding at Castle Farms the first weekend in May. We will be arriving 4/30/09. I was wondering if there were any shops/galleries that we shouldn%26#39;t miss, as well as any places to visit. We would love to just drive around and check out the scenery as well. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Visiting Charlevoix End of April

Scenery will probably be a better bet. You%26#39;re coming %26#39;between seasons%26#39; so many shops and galleries could be closed or light on inventory. Good news though is that crowds won%26#39;t be an issue. Have a good time.

Visiting Charlevoix End of April

I guess I didn%26#39;t anticipate shops being closed. I understand it being between seasons, but I will be disappointed if that is the case.

I%26#39;m not saying they will, but don%26#39;t be surprised if you find some are. Store owners need vacations too.

Take a drive along the shore up to Petoskey. You%26#39;ll find more activity there.

Thanks - we%26#39;ll do that.

Petoskey is a short, nice drive north of Charlevoix. We were there last weekend and a few of the shops were closed but it looked like they would be opening in a few weeks. That said there was still plenty to do in the downtown (gas light district)and lots of places open.

I would spend the morning in Charelvoix visiting what%26#39;s open there and then drive up to Petoskey for lunch and wander there for the afternoon.

Lunch suggestion: City Park Grill in Petoskey

The responses you have received are spot on. You may find some of the shops newly opened but many of them closed after Christmas and will open in time for Memorial Day. Having said that, it well worth your while to spend some time on US-31 (Bridge Street). Wander down the street to see what is open, end up at the Weathervane for a nice lunch overlooking the Pine River. Watch the drawbridge go up and down and, hopefully, watch some majestic boats pass by. I don%26#39;t know if these galleries/stores are open or not, but I love North Seas Gallery, Elements and many others. If American Spoon is open, stop in to taste the delicious sour cherry preserves, a Northern Michigan treat. I also love Otis Pottery on M-66 just south of town, on the way to East Jordan. The owners are wonderful and the work beautiful. On your way to Petoskey, stop by the Crooked Tree Art Center. It is wonderful and frequently has interesting temporary exhibits or shows. I also agree that you may find more shopping open in Petoskey%26#39;s Gaslight district. It, too, is a wonderful little town.

Take care and enjoy your trip! Moms

Thanks everyone for all your suggestions. I%26#39;m sure we will find plenty to do. We are looking forward to visiting the area.

Great little art gallery south of Charlevoix http://www.biergallery.com/index.htm

That is a great gallery! I always try to stop at any place that has beer. Oh, that%26#39;s Bier. Oops.

Seriously, they do have a great collection of talent there. Well worth a stop.

And if you get up to Petoskey and feel like going farther you can extend the day with a drive around the bay to Harbor Springs. It%26#39;s equally as charming as Charlevoix IMO. However, like Charlevoix, you%26#39;ll find some shops between season with hours and inventory.

Restaurants near the Fox Theater

Hello,

we are going to the fox Theater for the Color Purple on Saturday April 18 and have a couple questions.

1) We are looking for a nice up-scale restaurant specializing in Steak and Seafood near the Theater

2) We were wondering if there is a shuttle service from the Canadian side of the border that goes to the Fox Theater.

Thanks for any help you can provide,

Cheers,

Jarrod

Restaurants near the Fox Theater

I would suggest Mario%26#39;s. It%26#39;s not within walking distance of the Fox Theater, but they have a shuttle to and from the Fox. I have had both the steak and seafood there and I%26#39;m a huge fan. Please feel free to check out the menu.

http://www.mariosdetroit.com/

DaEdoardo is located next door to the fox and they have a nice menu, however I wouldn%26#39;t exactly say they have the seafood and steak that you%26#39;re looking for.

www.daedoardo.com/foxtownmenu.htm#dinner

Another suggestion would be Andiamo Riverfront, once again its not close to the Fox, but they have the steak and seafood that you%26#39;re looking for. They are located in the GM building and they provide a great veiw of the riverfront.

http://www.andiamoitalia.com/detroit/

Restaurants near the Fox Theater

RESTAURANTS. DA EDUARDO in the same block at the Fox Theatre (so park just once). ROAST in the Westin Book Cadillac Hotel, about 5 blocks south of the Fox. THE WHITNEY, about a mile north of the Fox on the same street (Woodward Avenue). MONROE STREET STEAK HOUSE in Greektown, about 6 blocks southeast from the Fox. Have been to the first three, but not Monroe Steak House.

There are a number of other possibilities as well.

SHUTTLE. Transit Windsor has an occasional shuttle service for events in Detroit, but I don%26#39;t know if they will be operating it for The Color Purple. Might be worth checking.

Hmmm... Is the Alley Grille still in business? That would be a choice, as well as The Woodward (across from Detroit Breakfast House).

AddieBee- Not sure if the Alley Grille is still operating. There is a January 2009 review here on Trip Advisor, however, so maybe it is.

The TA member said that they used to enjoy the restaurant but titled their review ';Not a place you want to eat at'; and it went downhill from there. No other reviews posted and I haven%26#39;t eaten there, so have no personal opinion.

What about any of the casino restos - like SaltWater or Bourbon Steaks. I don%26#39;t gamble so I don%26#39;t go into those places. My BF and I try to stick to more ethnic type eateries anyway.

No shuttle that I%26#39;m aware of. You could get a Tunnel Bus in Windsor, take it to Detroit to a People Mover station (Ren Cen probably) and get yourself over near the Fox (use Grand Circus People Mover stop) that way.

If you%26#39;re going to be out very late, note closing times for People Mover and (?) Tunnel Bus.

http://www.citywindsor.ca/001206.asp

www.citywindsor.ca/DisplayAttach.asp…

http://www.thepeoplemover.com/WE-LL-TAKE-YOU-THERE!.id.2.htm

www.thepeoplemover.com/Schedule.id.19.htm

Here%26#39;s an alternate site for Detroit restaurant reviews. It%26#39;s yelp.com/detroit filtered for downtown restaurants.

http://tinyurl.com/c7cd58

Ooh! Almost forgot! The new Detroit Fish Market has gotten good write ups in the papers here.

http://detroitfishmarket.com/

It%26#39;s on Randolph.

The Woodward has closed, Alley%26#39;s is still open.

DaEduardo%26#39;s inside the Fox is very good.

I%26#39;d try ROAST at the Book-Cadillac, or Finn %26amp; Porter at the Fort Shelby.

Iridescense high atop the MotorCity Casino is also quite nice, as are the Michael Mina and Wolfgang Puck restaurants in MGM

wine store

Staying at the holiday inn express this weekend %26amp; was wondering if there is a good priced wine store within 10 minutes drive. Thanks. ITS.

wine store

If you will be staying at the Holiday Inn Express in downtown Detroit, the best wine store near there is Cost Plus in Detroit%26#39;s Eastern Market. See www.detroiteasternmarket.com for details about the Market and a link to Cost Plus.

Driving time from HIE fits into your 10-minute requirement, plus you%26#39;ll get a chance to see the market, which isn%26#39;t usually on most visitors%26#39; itinerary. Cost Plus has a nice selection and excellent prices.

wine store

I agree with Tyler. I go to Cost Plus often. Great selection and the staff has always been helpful with recommendations.

Eastern Market is the place.

Thanks everyone. I will have a Marg` in Mexican town for you all... Life is good. ITS.

Me again. What is bookies Tavern like %26amp; Ruby on third in the MGM casino. Any bars in the area that we shuold not miss. We dont have happy hour in Canada so thats always fun for us. Thanks again. LIG ITS.

PS How safe is the area around where we are staying.. TY ITS.

The Holiday Inn is in the quieter, darker part of downtown, but the opening of the Book-Cadillac right next door has been a lift for the neighborhood. New streetlights, roads improvements, etc.

Definitely check out the bar inside the Book-Cadillac, it is worth it just to see the marvelous renovation of the building. Also, since you are from Canada, I am willing to bet you are a hockey fan, so try the Stanley Cup drink at the bar.

Bookie%26#39;s just opened a new 3-story bar, which was the HQ for the UCONN basketball team during the final four, and is quite nice. If you are up in that area, definitely check out the following bars: Centaur, Town Pump, and Cliff Bell%26#39;s.

Besides the Book Cadillac there isnt much DIRECTLY near the hotel, but a 10 minute walk north to Bookies/Foxtown area, or 10 minutes east takes you into the heart of downtown, with over 100 bars/restaurants in the small 1 sq mile downtown area.

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Gym in South Haven

hi,

I am due to come to South Haven in June for a holiday staying pretty much in the middle of Center Street , would anybody be able to advise where the nearest gym is to this address? And if it is available for non members?

cheers

S

Gym in South Haven

I believe there is really only one choice in town now, and that%26#39;s the new Fitness Center at the Hospital. It%26#39;s on Bailey four blocks east of Center. You%26#39;ll need to cut over on Phillips or Aylsworth to get there. Not sure about membership requirements.

Gym in South Haven

The hospital has a lovely fitness center. It%26#39;s $15/day for a pass.

Mountain Biking

My husband and I are looking to visit Tahquamenon Falls in August. We would like to mountain bike while we are there, but I cannot find any trails near the state park. Can anyone advise? Does the park allow biking?

Mountain Biking

Hello Perrysmom,

Welcome to the Michigan Forum.

Here is a web site that might help you out.

Trails.com

www.trails.com/activity.aspx?area=11668

I see in your other post you talk about Northern Michigan shoreline. Are you referring to the northern part of the Upper Peninsula or the northern part of lower michigan?

Mountain Biking

Here is another site I found -

www.exploringthenorth.com/mtbike/mtbike.html

Thank you. Unfortunately, neither of those sites specify whether or not, biking is allowed in Tahquamenon Falls State Park...or if there are trails nearby.

As for which shoreline...eastern UP or any LP shoreline is fine.

';Bikes are allowed on all paved and non-paved roads in all 97 state parks and recreation areas. Bikes may also be operated on designated bike paths. Look for signs or ask a member of the park staff if bicycling is allowed on any trail in the State Park.';

The above from the Michigan DNR website:

michigan.gov/dnr/鈥?0.html

If you head a bit more west Marquette County is rated one of the top 5 places in the US to live and mtn bike.

A really nice trail for visitors and locals is the Harlow Lake Trail very close to Lake Superior.

In Alger county (not as far west) you could look at the Seney National Wildife Refuge. All their roads are open to biking.

things to do with kids

Hi,

I%26#39;m considering attending a short course at the University of Michigan in June. I know its a ways away, but I%26#39;m thinking if it is worth bringing the family (kids 9,7,3yrs) along. I%26#39;ve never been there before, and dont know if there is much to do with kids there. If there is, we can make this a sort of family vacation, otherwise, i go alone. The earlier we book tickets, the better deal we get.

would appreciate whatever info i can get. (a list of things to do with kids would be great- will be staying in a hotel close to university).

thanks

things to do with kids

There%26#39;s a very cool hands on museum in the old fire house across from the police station on Huron St. And I always loved the Museum of Natural Hisory on campus.

things to do with kids

If you%26#39;re considering bringing your family for vacation, I don%26#39;t think you%26#39;ll be disappointed.

Both things above are great suggestions. Plus, in June you can enjoy outdoor activities. Ann Arbor has many parks. Hike in the Nichols Arboretum or rent canoes (if you%26#39;re coming with another adult).

Downtown Ann Arbor has many fairy doors that kids like to find: http://www.urban-fairies.com

Henry Ford Museum/Greenfield Village is about 45 minutes away if you want to take a day trip. Detroit Zoo isn%26#39;t much farther.

Your youngest in particular and maybe even the 7-year-old might like playing on the playground that is adjacent to the Ann Arbor Airport. You can watch planes take off and land from a closer vantage point than you%26#39;d normally get.

If your trip is after June 12, the Ann Arbor Summer Festival%26#39;s ';Top of the Park'; is great, free fun for families. Enjoy music and movies outside! The schedule will be available in about a month at http://www.annarborsummerfestival.org/

Ann Arbor District Library has great family programs, but you%26#39;ll have to wait until closer to the trip to see if anything fun is happening during your visit.

Also, if you want to head out of the area for a few days, Michigan offers great beach opportunities on both Lakes Michigan and Huron.

If you will be in town on a Saturday you could take the kids for a tour of the Chelsea Teddy Bear Factory (http://www.chelseateddybear.com/factory_tours).

I always liked the Museum of Natural History. Both RedRox and I have been there a few times when we use to do School Field Trips.

I also liked The Kelsey Museum. It has Mummies on display.

Oh yeah! I forgot about the mummies at Kelsey! That was always cool!

Thanks very much everyone! The info was great!

:o)

But i was also wondering...is the Ann Arbor area(univeristy or suggested areas in previous replies) considered a safe area?

I think Ann Arbor is a safe area. I suppose there may be some crime around but it is, overall, very safe. I don%26#39;t know of crime statistics but I do know that my husband and I frequently comment that the worst crime in university towns (he grew up in AA and I grew up in East Lansing) is stolen bikes. I am still amazed that kids in my neighborhood here in New Jersey can leave their bikes in the yard for days at a time and noone touches them. Not so in AA or EL, at least when we lived there.

Ann Arbor is a college town so it tends to have a pretty good night life and, if you stick to the commercial areas, you should be absolutely fine.

It%26#39;s funny, but it would never occur to me to question safety in Ann Arbor. Detroit, maybe, New York City, maybe, but not Ann Arbor. It%26#39;s a very cute, interesting town. Moms

Yes, the university area is considered safe. Especially in the summertime, when it is less crowded, your family (I assume they%26#39;ll be with another adult while you%26#39;re in class) could readily walk around downtown, even in the evenings. Ann Arbor makes many ';Best Place for X'; lists, including (I think) best place to raise kids. There are a gazillion parks (with various amenities), numerous day trip options (lots already listed), and plenty of things to do just in town. How long will you be here?

Natural History museum is nice..dinosaurs, other fossils, animal %26amp;mineral displays

Lake Bluff Condos Refund Ripoff Macinac Island MI

I planned my honeymoon at LakeBluff Condos for 4 days (Grand Hotel the 1st four nights of my honeymoon). I had become very familiar with Patricia Held %26amp; her sister (owners of Lake Bluff Condos) while making my plans, as tragedy had struck their families with death and health problems (I wont go into) I was very compassionate, listened sympathically while trying to comfort Patricias crying sister on the phone even after reservations were completed. I called periodically from May to June keeping updated on their family crisis.

I paid them $1130.00 for the deposit and 4 nights, then had to be hospitalized after my crisis %26amp; cancelled my reservations 2+ weeks before my scheduled arrival, requesting my refund. At first they had no problem with it %26amp; told me it was their busy season in July %26amp; they said they had ';no problem re-renting it since they had 2 weeks %26amp; they were booked solid';.

I was told I would get a ';$930 refund after a $190 deposit would be retained for cancelling';. I did not receive ANY of the the refund promised. When I called again, I was offerred to stay there ';during the off season'; by Patricia. I said ';NO';.

The Grand Hotel IMMEDIATELY refunded the whole amount I paid them. These two women I spent time comforting could not even return what I was due in my own crisis. I AM REPOTING THIS TO ALL TRAVEL websites, WEDDING websites and CITY website guides. All you have to do is send my refund I am due to PO Box 177, Northville MI Patricia.

I will remove ALL the reports as soon as I receive it, NOT BEFORE THEN.

IT IS CRITICAL YOU RETURN MY MONEY NOW.

LakeBluff Condos could loose that much with one weekend reservation alone.

Lake Bluff Condos Refund Ripoff Macinac Island MI

Call me crazy but are you threatening her or blackmailing her? I think there are better ways to handle this than bringing it to a family oriented travel site.